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		<title>By: A.Firken</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.Firken</dc:creator>
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		<description>&gt;Religion is rarely the root cause, although it is
&gt; often used as a tool by
&gt; terrorist organisations in recruiting

He&#039;s probably right but perhaps there&#039;s a distinction without a difference
here. Clearly there would be no suicide bombers if there were no grievance
(i.e. merely worshipping Allah is not a reason for suicide bombing), but it
is noteworthy that suicide was not the tactic of the IRA, nor have there
been any suiciders from among the Christian Palestinians / Lebanese who are
in the identical politico-geographic situation.

I agree with your overall thrust, in particular that defining the message
here is just a much the US&#039;s doing as the terrorists&#039;. I said from day one
that our simple-minded demonization of them is wrong on every count, and I
think it&#039;s clear that it leads to logically impossible dead ends like the
Bush position on Iraq. But I don&#039;t think you do anything to clarify how we
*should* understand them.

* You suicide because you have nothing to lose, because living is worse, or
because one small step for a man is a giant leap for mankind.

* Suicide is not actually the interesting question, because the &quot;terrorists&quot;
are just the tip of a larger supporting thought movement.

* The thought movement in question is transformative, by which I mean that
its goals (e.g. Caliphate) are unattainable by any logical move, so ka-boom
is the only way - shake things up and see if they fall in a better config

* You might want to read this:
&lt;pre&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;moz-txt-link-freetext&quot; href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/What-Terrorists-Want-Understanding-Containing/dp/1400&quot;&gt;http://www.amazon.com/What-Terrorists-Want-Understanding-Containing/dp/1400&lt;/a&gt;064813 &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;What Terrorists Want&quot; href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/What-Terrorists-Want-Understanding-Containing/dp/1400&quot;&gt;
&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
AF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Religion is rarely the root cause, although it is<br />
&gt; often used as a tool by<br />
&gt; terrorist organisations in recruiting</p>
<p>He&#8217;s probably right but perhaps there&#8217;s a distinction without a difference<br />
here. Clearly there would be no suicide bombers if there were no grievance<br />
(i.e. merely worshipping Allah is not a reason for suicide bombing), but it<br />
is noteworthy that suicide was not the tactic of the IRA, nor have there<br />
been any suiciders from among the Christian Palestinians / Lebanese who are<br />
in the identical politico-geographic situation.</p>
<p>I agree with your overall thrust, in particular that defining the message<br />
here is just a much the US&#8217;s doing as the terrorists&#8217;. I said from day one<br />
that our simple-minded demonization of them is wrong on every count, and I<br />
think it&#8217;s clear that it leads to logically impossible dead ends like the<br />
Bush position on Iraq. But I don&#8217;t think you do anything to clarify how we<br />
*should* understand them.</p>
<p>* You suicide because you have nothing to lose, because living is worse, or<br />
because one small step for a man is a giant leap for mankind.</p>
<p>* Suicide is not actually the interesting question, because the &#8220;terrorists&#8221;<br />
are just the tip of a larger supporting thought movement.</p>
<p>* The thought movement in question is transformative, by which I mean that<br />
its goals (e.g. Caliphate) are unattainable by any logical move, so ka-boom<br />
is the only way &#8211; shake things up and see if they fall in a better config</p>
<p>* You might want to read this:</p>
<pre><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.amazon.com/What-Terrorists-Want-Understanding-Containing/dp/1400">http://www.amazon.com/What-Terrorists-Want-Understanding-Containing/dp/1400</a>064813 <a target="_blank" title="What Terrorists Want" href="http://www.amazon.com/What-Terrorists-Want-Understanding-Containing/dp/1400">
</a></pre>
<p>AF</p>
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